| By Jason A. Churchill | ![]() | By 04-20-2012 |
"With the third pick in the 2012 Major League Baseball First-Year Players Draft, the Seattle Mariners select Byron Buxton, outfielder, Appling County High School, Baxter, Georgia."-- Anonymous veteran crosschecker
| 1. By: mfdplus on 04-20-2012 04:39:39 I'm not as scouty as the rest of you so I didn't have much of an opinion on who I want the Mariners to pick. Now that you have evoked the legacy of my favorite player of all time, Eric Davis, and described Buxton along the same lines then I have a favorite. |
| 2. By: skyway park on 04-20-2012 06:47:34 I would love for them to pick Buxton. The one thing you can count on is to be surprised out of the 3 drafts so far the only pick we heard of in advance was Ackley, Barron and I believe Jason called the Littlewood pick they have tight lips that's for sure. |
| 3. By: sexymarinersfan on 04-20-2012 07:15:04 1.Buxton 2.Zunino 3.Gausman For me in that order. Unless something drastic happens I think we'll nab one of these 3. Gausman would be a great addition to all the young arms we have coming up, and just increases the chances that we land another Ace. The catching position, along with DH, could be possibly set for quite awhile if Mike Zunino's name is called. I love to think about the possibilities of having him and Montero back there for the future. Zunino is a really good defender and would probably see most of the time behind the dish. Then there's Byron. We really don't have any depth whatsoever in our minor league system for outfielders of this caliber. I would love to hear his name called. He is a ways off, and I have seen what Z can do in a trade. We have the pieces to acquire another bat, an OF bat if you will. I won't be sad or surprised if any of these three are selected come this years draft. |
| 4. By: dawgncarolina on 04-20-2012 07:52:32 I just can't see Buxton falling to us, but if he does I'll be absolutely thrilled. I'd be happy with Zunino, too. Nobody else gets me real excited. |
| 5. By: batman on 04-20-2012 08:09:08 I went to middle school and high school with Baker. He was a pretty huge jerk back then. |
| 6. By: Shawnuel on 04-20-2012 09:11:58 Call it illogical, because I know how polished and low risk Zunino is but I just have an aversion to picking a catcher so high in the draft. That siad, I would go 1.Buxton 2.Gausman/Zimmer 3.Correa |
| 7. By: zrininger on 04-20-2012 10:28:08 Being from Alaska I am very interested to here more about Baker. Anyone have anymore information? High school? Age? (Sucks to hear that he was a jerk) |
| 8. By: batman on 04-20-2012 11:03:28 Baker went to Juneau-Douglas High School and I think he's 20. |
| 9. By: maqman on 04-20-2012 11:21:29 The Astros and Twins need pitchers so there's an outside chance Buxton will be there for us and a better chance Zunino will be. I'm okay with whoever the team picks, they know so much more than I do and have earned my trust. |
| 10. By: mymrbig on 04-20-2012 11:57:51 A draft prospect (Dylan Baker) that went to JDHS? Nice, my alma mater! Not the best competition level for high school ball, but I played high school ball with 2 JDHS guys that were drafted: Toby Staveland (who didn't make it far) and Chad Bentz (Jim Abbott-like pitcher who had some cups of coffee in MLB). thebaseballcube actually shows another couple names since then that have been drafted or played college ball. Most famous sports alumni for JDHS has to be Carlos Boozer. |
| 11. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-20-2012 12:12:12 maqman, We're talking about need again? The M's didn't NEED a pitcher last June and that is what they drafted. The Pirates true need was shortstop and catcher and they passed and went with Cole. The Twins haven't drafted this high in a while, but even though they have a tendency to draft college pitching, they also dabble in the prep outfielder -- Aaron Hicks, Ben Revere, Torii Hunter, Jacque Jones. The team at the very top don't draft for need, and the new CBA only pushes that along further. No MLB deals, the bonuses will be greatly reduced ... there's little reason for clubs to not take the BPA now. No reason, really. |
| 12. By: Aarond on 04-20-2012 15:37:44 I have a question about Joey Martarano and how the new budget system effects his draft status. Not only is he committed to BSU and says he's focused on football, but the Broncos don't let players do pro-ball while on the team. Does that mean that unless he makes it clear to MLB teams before draft day that he's willing to sign, that he likely won't be drafted at all? It seems that teams can not risk missing out on a first round pick anymore because they can't grab a high price guy later in the draft to make up for it. |
| 13. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-20-2012 16:07:46 I wouldn't say not at all, Aarond, but if those are the circumstances and that is what he tells pro clubs, he won't be drafted high unless a team believes he's worth a plan to overwhelm him with an offer. Teams can still do that, they just would then have far less for the rest of their draft. There might be a few teams out there willing to do that. Money talks, though, and we saw that specifically with Josh Bell this past year. All clubs -- the rich ones that contend every year, those close to his home, the ones that don't win but are spending in the draft to turn their franchises around, all of them -- were told Bell was going to college. And until Pitt came in with their big offer, that was his plan. Money is very convincing, and if Martarano is considered a top 20 pick or better, IMO, he should take it and never look back. We're still talking seven figures and the chances he's a top 100 draft prospect three years into his college football career aren't good, based on numbers, risk of injury and stagnated development, and the fact that there are tons of college football programs with tons of prospects. W |
| 14. By: slamcactus on 04-20-2012 18:49:30 You've sold me. Now the question is: is there any chance in hell he falls to #3? He seems to be emerging as the consensus top talent, and with new ownership in Houston I'd be surprised if they pass on the top talent to pick a college guy just because they hope to get a faster riser. Houston needs impact talent at all levels of the organization, not quick help. I'd love it if he fell, but I'm preparing myself for either Zunnino or an out-of-nowhere pick that no analyst anywhere linked to the Mariners even once during months and months and months of analysis and mock drafts. Yeah, that Hultzen pick was a bit of a surprise... |
| 15. By: d2ret on 04-20-2012 23:22:59 How much have you heard about Soler? If he were in this draft, where would he be ranked? |
| 16. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-21-2012 01:20:52 Soler would be a top 10 pick, maybe in the top 3. |
| 17. By: maqman on 04-21-2012 10:27:54 Given that Soler isn't covered by the new CBA limitations and the Cespedes deal seemingly being a decent get I'd imagine Soler will cost into eight figures. The Yankees are supposedly in love with him but Oakland showed an AL West bottom dweller can beat them out now The Boss is dead and his bean counter son objects to paying the luxury tax. |
| 18. By: Timberwolf on 04-21-2012 11:49:27 I trust Jack, and I find it hard to believe that he would pass on Buxton if he's available. Pretty impressive results of last three drafts, but I was surprised that Nick Franklin's ceiling appears so low. |
| 19. By: Juan Valdez on 04-21-2012 22:27:10 "I was surprised that Nick Franklin's ceiling appears so low." If Franklin can become an average major league player, that's pretty damn solid in my opinion. We need legitimate major leaguers. Period. They don't have to be superstars. |
| 20. By: StandinPat on 04-22-2012 15:58:27 Yeah, everyday SS with above average power for the position isn't exactly striking me as "low ceiling" either |
| 21. By: Marlin Man on 04-22-2012 20:22:46 I would take Franklin over what we have playing there TODAY. M.M. |
| 22. By: dewey on 04-23-2012 07:48:57 #21 Remember he is facing AA pitching not major league guys everyday its a huge diffrence.I believe from what i read i have never seen him in person that Franklin is right where he should be and getting better sometimes these guys have to learn the ropes in the minors before they get to majors and face the best. |
| 23. By: Shawnuel on 04-23-2012 08:30:43 I suspect that Marlin Man feels the same way, Dewey. I think he was just voicing an editorial comment on how dire our current MLB SS situation is. |
| 24. By: amac360 on 04-23-2012 09:47:14 Random question, do Bellingham Bells players get payed? It is technically a professional team. |
| 25. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-23-2012 12:56:45 amac360, Yes. Not very much, however. |
| 26. By: Mackie on 04-23-2012 13:06:57 With the Mariners offense as historically bad as it has been, I'd be fine with an entire lineup of major-league-average hitters. It seems that would be enough to score an average of more than 3 runs plus change per game. So far this season the averages for AL teams are BA .253, OBP .321, SLG .411 and OPS .732 with an average runs scored per game of 4.25. For those stats the Mariners are at 3.53 |
| 27. By: Mackie on 04-23-2012 13:09:18 Sorry, I hit the wrong button and posted too quickly. To finish, for those stats so far this year the Mariners are at .223, .274, .342 and .616 with an average of 3.53 runs per game. So yes, "league average" sounds great to me when it comes to offense for the M's. |
| 28. By: Marlin Man on 04-23-2012 19:10:14 Jason- not sure this is the right place to ask, but?? How does Vasquez look down at Tacoma? Stats look outstanding- is he ready to bring it up here? M.M. |
| 29. By: rotoenquire on 04-23-2012 20:43:19 As we get closer the draft boards have changed a lot, as to be expected. However the changed by observers based on projected talent does not change who will be picked. Appel by Hou. I still feel is there top choice. Pitching is always at a premium and with Buxton committed to go too College and play both football and baseball. Houston may take the safer option. Minn. picking at #2 seems more the team to take a chance on drafting Buxton. I am not 100% sold on this kid. His talent at a young age is very good. However (GA) high school baseball players have fallen short in resent draft history. The last high school (GA) player to be drafted and make an imnpact in the pros. was B. Hall. The next closest player maybe B. Hamilton in High-A for Cin he has the potential too be an impact player. The M's do not go for the usual suspects when drafting. They go for best talent. What is the best talent? Breaking down what I have seen they look at the following. if a player is a Left or Right handing batter or pitcher, knowledge, tools, growth potential. Need never enters the consideration I believe. So who will the M's pick? In no particular order. K. Zimmer RP M. Zunino C M. Fred LP D. Marrero SS I really like Zunino, but I have a feeling about M. Fred. Fred a Left handed pitcher with a ton of upside seems too fit in the M's wheelhouse. |
| 30. By: zackr on 04-24-2012 10:01:42 Hey JAC, If we take the catcher - Zunino, is he head and shoulders above the rest of the catchers in our lower affiliates? |
| 31. By: dewey on 04-24-2012 12:41:05 Can Zunino catch and throw or is he just a offensive type guy? Ive read where is dad is a scout for someone do you know who? |
| 32. By: bb4ever on 04-24-2012 15:31:26 "Ive read where is dad is a scout for someone do you know who?" The Reds. |
| 33. By: rotoenquire on 04-25-2012 08:29:29 His dad was a mlb player and a catcher. From everything I have seen his defense and game calling are MLB ready. His bat needs some work, that being said for a guy needing to work on his bat, Zunino was in the top 3 of almost every offensive catagory in his conferance in college. He could be up with whatever club that drafts him within 2 years. |
| 34. By: akplaya907 on 04-25-2012 19:38:36 I also went to JDHS and have played baseball with Baker almost my whole life and I can safely say that he is not a jerk, in fact he's a very nice guy. On the baseball side of things, as of last week he topped out at 98 on his fastball has a curve (79-81) and a slider which has topped at 88. |
| 35. By: slamcactus on 04-26-2012 14:57:51 RE: Georgia hs players, that Jason Heyward kid has certainly made something of an impact in his short time in the bigs... Not picking someone because of geography is downright silly. Scouts have had dozens of opportunities to see each of these guys on the showcase circuit against top competition. Draft based on talent. Ignore where the guy comes from. |
| 36. By: rotoenquire on 05-02-2012 18:05:03 Was just an observation, the rest of your statement repeats what I said..TY After listening to some of the guys on our local ESPN and KJR as well as some national talk today on Sirius. I would put Zunino #1 on my draft board for the M's. However like I have said before M. Fred LP for some reason strikes me as a JackZ kinda kid. |
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