| By Jason A. Churchill |  | By 01-28-2011 |
The Seattle Mariners have had discussions with the Oakland Athletics regarding third baseman Chone Figgins, according to the Oakland Tribune's Joe Stiglich.
Stiglich suggests that the A's could send back Kevin Kouzmanoff and a pitcher -- but we have to imagine cash would be involved.
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| 1. By: ripperlv on 01-28-2011 13:00:36 I'm guessing Kouzmanoff would be a one year stop-gap. For whom, I have no idea. Wonder what kind of pitcher we're talking about? I like the idea of freeing up MB and Figgins money for next year, and I don't see this move as hurting the team. Still not enough money for Fielder, but it gives JZ play money. I have no complaints, because it opens a lot of possibilities, like getting some power at a corner position. BTW, do you still have that ESPN special for becoming a subscriber? |
| 2. By: Jason A. Churchill on 01-28-2011 13:13:58 I don't right now, ripper. May not for awhile. I only get that chance once in a blue moon -- well, once in two years, so far. |
| 3. By: baseballman on 01-28-2011 13:20:37 Now it looks like a 3 team trade with Oak and Tor. Onley speculating Figgins to Tor? |
| 4. By: baseballman on 01-28-2011 13:21:49 Sorry for the double post but I meant to write "kouz" to Tor. JAC any word on who we could be getting? |
| 5. By: Edman on 01-28-2011 13:52:49 Maybe Jack will use the Angels acquisition of Wells as an example of not having to include cash....LOL. |
| 6. By: Jason A. Churchill on 01-28-2011 13:53:07 I haven' heard anything and probably won't, as I am working on two other projects this afternoon and can't make phone calls. |
| 7. By: Rick Randall on 01-28-2011 14:03:00 I called around...my mom knows nothing. (#notascoolasJason) |
| 8. By: Jason A. Churchill on 01-28-2011 14:17:04 OK, I lied. I did send out some texts -- Toronto is not involved, this particular source isn't sure why TBJ was reported as being involved, but I haven't seen anything mentioning them beyond pure, raw speculation. |
| 9. By: safecochatter on 01-28-2011 14:49:49 figgy would be a good fit in oakland. adding money to the deal or not,jack should hold out for a building block type player. but i don't see an oakland pitcher fit in this trade. their not gonna blow a hole in the rotation and i think they seem to be a little thin on minor league pitching. |
| 10. By: Jason A. Churchill on 01-28-2011 14:59:01 I think an arm such as Josh Outman fits this deal. A risk because of the injury history ... but Kouz, Outman for Figgins likely equals more cash than I would care to include. |
| 11. By: Edman on 01-28-2011 15:27:43 Personally, I think it's always a bad idea to sell low. I don't see Jack trading in the division, unless he at least gets equal value. I especially don't think it's a good deal if we include too much cash. My guess, it's all rumor and not likely to happen. |
| 12. By: safecochatter on 01-28-2011 15:32:01 too bad m's don't have a better in house answer at 3rd.then they could do a figgy for a prospect and get a better prospect,without a lot of cash going out. did take note that oakland doesn't have any prospects in the top 50. i didn't see law's list,but several others. |
| 13. By: Mackie on 01-28-2011 15:33:21 I like the thought of being out from under the contracts of both Figgins and Bradley for next year. That is $21M. Who else's contracts will the M's no longer be responsible for after the 2011 season? Of course the ball club will say they expect to contend and that expectations are high because they probably have to say such things. But if expectations are in truth not high for next year, how badly do they really need Figgins? And when Ackley is ready, won't he likely be the #2 guy in the batting order at some point? If they can free up substantial amounts of money for next season, they might be able to trade for (and afford) some players who could have a nice impact on the roster/lineup. Evaluate young players in 2011, then fill in some holes next winter? I agree Outman would be nice to have. I'd love to see the M's get someone in this deal who could help beyond next season. Kouzmanoff is paid $4.75M for next year, I think, but is only under contract for one year, so it looks he'd maybe only be here temporarily. If the Mariners didn't have to include too much cash and could get useful players, this could be a good deal. How much cash would be "too much?" Whatever happens, it mostly just seems like a crap shoot... but it's fun to wonder and speculate! |
| 14. By: short on 01-28-2011 16:35:09 Best part of this whole thing is that there is M's transaction news, and the M's are getting buzz for something other than getting arrested. |
| 15. By: SolusFood on 01-28-2011 17:37:09 Mackie, There's a lot more coming off the books Jack Wilson is 5 million for 2011 and then gone. We are also paying a total of 6.5 million for Silva and Yuni this year. I also highly doubt Aardsma will play for the Mariners in 2012. He will cost too much next year regardless of what happens this season. That's roughly 30+ million coming off the books if Figgins is traded straight up. I am just speculating though that the Mariners may cut payroll slightly for 2012 since they are already projected to lose money this year (barring miraculous 2011 season). |
| 16. By: sexymarinersfan on 01-28-2011 18:13:16 I'm pretty sure that the Silva contract is already taken care of. I know we're still paying Betancourt. Cust will be a FA next year though. |
| 17. By: StandinPat on 01-28-2011 18:23:27 "I'm pretty sure that the Silva contract is already taken care of" We are sending $5.5 mil to Chicago this year. |
| 18. By: shortstop9 on 01-28-2011 19:02:19 Oakland has a lot of OFs on their roster. Sweeney,Jackson,Carter seem like backups. |
| 19. By: jgstecker on 01-28-2011 21:14:49 Cust is actually NOT a free agent. He will be under club control and arbitration eligible in 2012. He could ask for $4 million or more if he performs. Don't forget Felix and Gutierrez will combine to earn an extra $9 million in 2012. |
| 20. By: sexymarinersfan on 01-29-2011 01:55:05 Heading over to Fanfest now to get in line. See you all at the ballpark! Hopefully I'll be first in line! |
| 21. By: ripperlv on 01-29-2011 04:16:18 Cust actually signed as a free agent to a one year contract and will be a free agent in 2012 (I do believe). |
| 22. By: Madison Mariner on 01-29-2011 06:58:54 Yep, #19 and #21 are correct. The M's get an extra year of control over Cust's contractual rights(unless they non-tender him in December 2011). This is because Oakland actually DFA'ed Cust last April, right around the beginning of the season. At the time, Cust had 4 years and 2 days of service time, meaning the A's didn't need his consent to send him outright to AAA(and off the 40-man roster). So, Cust went to AAA. By the time the A's purchased Cust's contract and re-added him to the 40- and 25-man rosters, it was mid-May. He spent the rest of the season on their 25-man roster, but the month or so he spent at AAA means his total service time as of the end of 2010 is 4 years and 1-- days(100-some days), meaning that even if Cust gets a full season of service time in 2011 with the M's, he'd only have 5 years and 100-some days service time at the end of 2011. Thus, the M's get an extra year of control of Jack Cust! |
| 23. By: maqman on 01-30-2011 13:32:14 Well done Madison Mariner! |
| 24. By: StandinPat on 01-30-2011 16:13:56 Madison, I was actually wondering about that when they signed him. Cot's had him at just over four years of service, but not every player's service time had been updated so I wasn't quite sure. Basically this just shows even more what a smart guy Zduriencik is. Out of all the DH only candidates, Cust is the youngest, is a good fit the ball park, might end up having been signed for the cheapest contract, and basically the M's have an inexpensive club-option on him for 2012, making him better than just a stop-gap. |
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