| By Jason A. Churchill |  | By 04-05-2011 |
The club is apparently still deciding on a couple of the names on the High Desert and Jackson rosters -- possibly whether to make Josh Fields active or not -- but as of Tuesday night below is official.
Pitchers
Anthony Vasquez
Nick Hill (DL)
Steven Hensley
Andrew Carraway
Bobby LaFromboise
Brian Moran
Scott Patterson
Stephen Penney
Jarret Grube
Josh Fields
Moises Hernandez
Kenn Kasparek
Erasmo Ramirez
Donnie Hume (DL)
Stephen Kahn (DL)
Catchers
Jose Yepez
Brandon Bantz
Infielders
Johan Limonta
Rich Poythress
Scott Savastano
Kyle Seager
Carlos Triunfel
Edilio Colina (DL)
Luis Jimenez (DL)
Outfielders
Joe Dunigan (DL)
Brandon Haveman
Kuo Hui Lo (DL)
James McOwen
Nate Tenbrink
Eddy Martinez-Esteve (DL)
Johermyn Chavez
Jake Shaffer
Notes: Limonta is listed as an infielder but could play some outfield -- though not well. The rotation should consist of Carraway, Ramirez, Vasquez, Kasparek and Hensley, at least until Hume or Hill returns.
It's an aggressive assignment for Ramirez but a good test. He sat 86-89 during the spring but an Indians scout got him at 91 a couple of time. There's little projection in his physical makeup, so he kind of is what he is, but he does throw strikes with three pitches.
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| 1. By: Mackie on 04-05-2011 22:55:46 Maybe Ramirez will end up being one of those "diamond in the rough" types. Are all three of the pitches of decent quality? Do you think we'll ever see Josh Fields in the majors? I'm beginning to wonder. What is the high end of how he projects at this point? |
| 2. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-05-2011 23:09:54 Ramirez's fastball is not consistently average in terms of velocity, and he's under 6 feet tall, so he needs be Tom Glavine or Jamie Moyer otherwise. |
| 3. By: Lailoken on 04-05-2011 23:32:18 Check out the BB/9 for the starting rotation: Vasquez 171.2 & 24 Ramirez 151.2 & 21 Kasparek 146.1 & 37 Grube 103.1 & 27 Hensley 117 & 50 690 & 159 for 2.07 BB/9 Hensley actually was much better before the All-Star Break last year, he imploded in the 2nd half & was shelved. Hume has a career BB/9 rate of 3.21 & may later be part of the rotation should he prove healthy enough. He's likely a bit better than that Anyway, should be plenty of fast games in Jackson. |
| 4. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-05-2011 23:34:06 No chance they repeat that ... |
| 5. By: Lailoken on 04-06-2011 00:17:39 Yeah, it's a big step up to AA. I doubt they come very close to repeating that overall number. One thing in their favor is that Jackson is not High Desert but the jump in talent for opposing hitters overtakes that positive difference quickly. |
| 6. By: bb4ever on 04-06-2011 06:31:52 Switchitting Franklin will be fine. He hit .318 on the left side in the Midwest. That would have tied the BA crown. Instead he's also working on the right side and ended up getting the HR crown and breaking Clinton's HR record! First 20/20 was nice too! Heard he played last night against a Community College and went 2 for 4 with 2 HR's - one from each side. |
| 7. By: VikingArthur on 04-06-2011 09:34:29 Completely unrelated...but I am officially excited to be an M's fan again after watching Pineda. Watching him is like watching Felix in his rookie year... but Pineda is more calm and has better command than Felix did as a rookie. Wow. |
| 8. By: slamcactus on 04-06-2011 09:47:44 Yes, but Felix had a plus changeup and was equally devastating against lefties. Felix wasn't special because he was burning up the radar guns more than anyone else in the minors - he was no slouch, but it's not like the kid was ever topping 100mph. What was remarkable about him as a prospect was that he was essentially a complete major league pitcher at the age of 18. He needed to refine a few things (most notably fastball command, which took a few years), but he already had 3 plus pitches with velocity and movement at an age when most people are still finishing up their sr. year of high school. And he already knew how to control them. I know you're not saying Pineda's as good as Felix, Arthur, it's just something about Felix that has become even more impressive to me over time. I started following minor leaguers closely around 2003, so Felix's emergence was pretty early in the game for me. Now, every time I see these other top pitching prospects crack the majors in their early-mid 20s who still need to work on a 3rd pitch, or who struggle to hold their stuff late into games, or who don't yet have anything resembling major league command, it reminds me how freakishly awesome Felix was. And why he's the best pitching prospect I've ever seen (and yes, that includes Stephen Strasburg). So yeah, even though I'm completely aware that you weren't suggesting otherwise, Arthur, Felix circa 2004-2005 >>> Pineda circa 2010-2011. |
| 9. By: brown1981 on 04-06-2011 11:07:04 jason, quick questions on brandol perez. His page on MiLB website says he is 21. All others say 17. Do you know which is correct and if he will be stateside this year? Is he still even a prospect if he is in fact 21? |
| 10. By: StandinPat on 04-06-2011 11:45:37 "but he already had 3 plus pitches" I think technically he had 4, but his slider was shelved to help save his arm. A couple years later he decides to start throwing it again, and blammo, right back to being another plus pitch. That just doesn't happen. I do agree though, it's extremely exciting watching Pineda. I think he more than proved last night that he is a legit MLB starter, and at only 22 with quite a bit of room to grow, that's really impressive. The one thing I found odd, and Dave Cameron mentioned this during the game, was pitching to Hamilton with men in scoring position. We all know Pineda's biggest weakness right now is against LHBs, and one of his biggest strengths is his control. What I don't get is, if he's not gonna walk many on his own(He only had one last night), then why not pitch around the more dangerous lefties in any lineup? You don't have to throw them four straights balls, but why not try and nibble, keep the ball low and away or throw a steady diet of breaking balls to try and get them to chase? It seems like the worst case scenario, you walk that guy, but then aren't very likely to walk the next, and if that player is a righty, they are prob gonna make an out. |
| 11. By: VikingArthur on 04-06-2011 12:23:02 Slam... Certainly Felix was more refined and earlier. Pineda's change is not a finished product and he is not quite comfortable throwing it but it certainly has the makings of a devastating pitch. Felix had to learn to establish the FB...he would throw tons of breaking stuff early in counts where as Pineda understands that you can get ahead throwing 95-97 early in counts and then finish people with the slider. Obviously if Pineda becomes 80% of what Felix is we are all going to be elated but my initial impression is that he can be a VERY legit #2 starter as early as next year. |
| 12. By: VikingArthur on 04-06-2011 12:25:36 Side note... wouldn't it be fun to watch Felix and Pineda pitch against the Mariner lineup? Ha, Ha. |
| 13. By: dawgncarolina on 04-06-2011 12:38:49 "Felix had to learn to establish the FB" Funny, I remember it just the opposite. Felix had to learn that his fastball was his worst pitch, especially when teams knew it was all he was going to throw the first couple of innings. Once he started mixing in some bendy stuff early, he was devastating. |
| 14. By: slamcactus on 04-06-2011 13:42:55 Dawg is spot-on here. Felix's problems early centered on over-reliance on the 4-seam fastball, not problems "establishing it." He would get shelled in early innings because he'd start off the game with 15 straight fastballs and fail to keep hitters guessing. I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that Felix's problem was he was pitching backwards too much. And even with that, we're talking about a kid who was a complete package MLB pitcher at the age of 19 (really 18 - there's really very little doubt in my mind he could have stood in in 2004 and not been overmatched). He wasn't an ace, but if Felix had failed to make a single improvement from 2005, he'd still be a quality pitcher. |
| 15. By: VikingArthur on 04-06-2011 13:51:23 Hmm... I guess we remember things differently. By my recollection, Felix would fall in love with his breaking stuff in his first two years and forget about his two seamer. It's all good...he is the man now. |
| 16. By: slamcactus on 04-06-2011 13:56:22 Yeah, your recollection really isn't right. Felix's over-reliance on his fastball inspired hundreds of pages of venting by internet baseball fanboys. It prompted Dave Cameron to write an open letter to the Ms pitching coach which eventually caught Felix's eye and got him to admit publicly that if random people on the internet could guess the pitch he was about to throw, opposing batters probably could too, and he agreed he needed to mix it up more. The open letter is linked below, complete with pitch charts showing Felix's over-reliance on his fastball. http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/ This is one of the better documented instances of the blogosphere having an actual effect on the way the players approach the game (this and Zack Greinke telling journalists he reads Fangraphs and wanted to put up a 10-WAR season). |
| 17. By: slamcactus on 04-06-2011 13:57:44 My favorite quote, after showing the pitch charts from the first inning: "This is taking “establish the fastball” to an entirely different level. This is predictability beyond comprehension, and every team in baseball has caught on. Felix put four guys on base by chucking fastballs last night, then struck out J.D. Drew with four consecutive offspeed pitches." |
| 18. By: bb4ever on 04-06-2011 17:46:58 Impressive start for the Mavs. Even though it was against St Marys school for boys. http://www.vvdailypress.com/sports/adelanto-26934-hit-mavs.h |
| 19. By: Lailoken on 04-06-2011 22:47:35 If anyone's interested in the article that bb4ever posted you just need to add "tml" to the end. The Mavs no hit the community college team w/ many pitchers & Franklin (very good sign about his right-handed swing) hit home runs from both sides of the dish. |
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