| By Adam H. Wong | ![]() | By 04-07-2012 |
| RHP - 89-90 MPH | |||||||||||||||||||
| Player | L/R | IP | Age | SO | K/9 | WHIP | WAR | xFIP | FBv | ||||||||||
| Jon Garland | R | 2013.2 | 31 | 1082 | 4.84 | 1.37 | 22.8 | 4.58 | 90 | ||||||||||
| Ryan Franklin | R | 1189.2 | 38 | 662 | 5.01 | 1.32 | 3.6 | 4.85 | 89.9 | ||||||||||
| Jeff Weaver | R | 1474.1 | 33 | 964 | 5.88 | 1.37 | 18.2 | 4.51 | 89.8 | ||||||||||
| Russ Ortiz | R | 1169.2 | 36 | 786 | 6.05 | 1.47 | 11.4 | 4.94 | 89.7 | ||||||||||
| Joel Pineiro | R | 1735 | 32 | 1048 | 5.44 | 1.34 | 23.1 | 4.17 | 89.6 | ||||||||||
| Jered Weaver | R | 1131.2 | 28 | 977 | 7.77 | 1.16 | 24.3 | 4.06 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Matt Morris | R | 1422.1 | 33 | 952 | 6.02 | 1.33 | 22 | 4.17 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Joe Blanton | R | 1243.2 | 30 | 812 | 5.88 | 1.35 | 18.1 | 4.27 | 89.3 | ||||||||||
| Rodriogo Lopez | R | 1319.2 | 35 | 846 | 5.77 | 1.41 | 12.9 | 4.42 | 89.2 | ||||||||||
| Odalis Perez | L | 1231.1 | 31 | 833 | 6.09 | 1.32 | 16.3 | 3.96 | 89.1 | Brad Radke | R | 1139.1 | 33 | 662 | 5.23 | 1.23 | 21.5 | 4.19 | 89 |
| Paul Maholm | L | 1143.2 | 29 | 705 | 5.55 | 1.42 | 13.9 | 4.22 | 89 | ||||||||||
| RHP and LHP - 89-90 MPH | |||||||||||||||||||
| Player | L/R | IP | Age | SO | K/9 | WHIP | WAR | xFIP | FBv | ||||||||||
| Jon Garland | R | 2013.2 | 31 | 1082 | 4.84 | 1.37 | 22.8 | 4.58 | 90 | ||||||||||
| Ryan Franklin | R | 1189.2 | 38 | 662 | 5.01 | 1.32 | 3.6 | 4.85 | 89.9 | ||||||||||
| Jeff Weaver | R | 1474.1 | 33 | 964 | 5.88 | 1.37 | 18.2 | 4.51 | 89.8 | ||||||||||
| Russ Ortiz | R | 1169.2 | 36 | 786 | 6.05 | 1.47 | 11.4 | 4.94 | 89.7 | ||||||||||
| Joel Pineiro | R | 1735 | 32 | 1048 | 5.44 | 1.34 | 23.1 | 4.17 | 89.6 | ||||||||||
| Dontrelle Willis | L | 1221.2 | 29 | 896 | 6.60 | 1.43 | 16.3 | 4.39 | 89.5 | ||||||||||
| Jered Weaver | R | 1131.2 | 28 | 977 | 7.77 | 1.16 | 24.3 | 4.06 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Wandy Rodriguez | L | 1176 | 32 | 1004 | 7.68 | 1.35 | 15.9 | 3.93 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Matt Morris | R | 1422.1 | 33 | 952 | 6.02 | 1.33 | 22 | 4.17 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Eric Milton | L | 1003.2 | 33 | 697 | 6.25 | 1.35 | 9.1 | 4.79 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Joe Blanton | R | 1243.2 | 30 | 812 | 5.88 | 1.35 | 18.1 | 4.27 | 89.3 | ||||||||||
| Rodriogo Lopez | R | 1319.2 | 35 | 846 | 5.77 | 1.41 | 12.9 | 4.42 | 89.2 | ||||||||||
| Odalis Perez | L | 1231.1 | 31 | 833 | 6.09 | 1.32 | 16.3 | 3.96 | 89.1 | Brad Radke | R | 1139.1 | 33 | 662 | 5.23 | 1.23 | 21.5 | 4.19 | 89 |
| Paul Maholm | L | 1143.2 | 29 | 705 | 5.55 | 1.42 | 13.9 | 4.22 | 89 | ||||||||||
| Expanded Velocities | |||||||||||||||||||
| Player | L/R | IP | Age | SO | K/9 | WHIP | WAR | xFIP | FBv | ||||||||||
| Justin Verlander | R | 1315.1 | 28 | 1215 | 8.31 | 1.19 | 32.4 | 3.80 | 95 | ||||||||||
| Felix Hernandez | R | 1388.1 | 25 | 1264 | 8.19 | 1.22 | 32.7 | 3.31 | 94.4 | ||||||||||
| Kerry Wood | R | 1067.2 | 34 | 1211 | 10.21 | 1.24 | 18.1 | 3.78 | 94.4 | ||||||||||
| ... | |||||||||||||||||||
| Jon Garland | R | 2013.2 | 31 | 1082 | 4.84 | 1.37 | 22.8 | 4.58 | 90 | ||||||||||
| Ryan Franklin | R | 1189.2 | 38 | 662 | 5.01 | 1.32 | 3.6 | 4.85 | 89.9 | ||||||||||
| Jeff Weaver | R | 1474.1 | 33 | 964 | 5.88 | 1.37 | 18.2 | 4.51 | 89.8 | ||||||||||
| Russ Ortiz | R | 1169.2 | 36 | 786 | 6.05 | 1.47 | 11.4 | 4.94 | 89.7 | ||||||||||
| Joel Pineiro | R | 1735 | 32 | 1048 | 5.44 | 1.34 | 23.1 | 4.17 | 89.6 | ||||||||||
| Dontrelle Willis | L | 1221.2 | 29 | 896 | 6.60 | 1.43 | 16.3 | 4.39 | 89.5 | ||||||||||
| Jered Weaver | R | 1131.2 | 28 | 977 | 7.77 | 1.16 | 24.3 | 4.06 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Wandy Rodriguez | L | 1176 | 32 | 1004 | 7.68 | 1.35 | 15.9 | 3.93 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Matt Morris | R | 1422.1 | 33 | 952 | 6.02 | 1.33 | 22 | 4.17 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Eric Milton | L | 1003.2 | 33 | 697 | 6.25 | 1.35 | 9.1 | 4.79 | 89.4 | ||||||||||
| Joe Blanton | R | 1243.2 | 30 | 812 | 5.88 | 1.35 | 18.1 | 4.27 | 89.3 | ||||||||||
| Rodriogo Lopez | R | 1319.2 | 35 | 846 | 5.77 | 1.41 | 12.9 | 4.42 | 89.2 | ||||||||||
| Odalis Perez | L | 1231.1 | 31 | 833 | 6.09 | 1.32 | 16.3 | 3.96 | 89.1 | Brad Radke | R | 1139.1 | 33 | 662 | 5.23 | 1.23 | 21.5 | 4.19 | 89 |
| Paul Maholm | L | 1143.2 | 29 | 705 | 5.55 | 1.42 | 13.9 | 4.22 | 89 | ||||||||||
| ... | |||||||||||||||||||
| Greg Maddux | L | 1690.1 | 42 | 1021 | 5.44 | 1.19 | 30.9 | 3.72 | 84.7 | ||||||||||
| Jamie Moyer | L | 1938 | 47 | 1143 | 5.31 | 1.28 | 19.3 | 4.65 | 81.6 | ||||||||||
| Tim Wakefield | R | 1882.1 | 44 | 1284 | 6.14 | 1.30 | 25.3 | 4.77 | 74.1 | ||||||||||
| 1. By: malcontent1 on 04-07-2012 23:22:17 I don't understand why you're putting the bench mark at 89-90. Brooks has Felix's fastball at about 91.5 (admittedly right now, Felix has the measuring systems confused and that's a cumulative average between several pitches, and more than likely some are buried amongst the change ups, but still, his average velocity on the hard stuff must have been over 90). When you expand the list up to 92, you get Kevin Milwood, Roger Clemens, Cliff Lee, Johan Santana, James Shields, Cole Hamels, Tim Hudson, Bartolo Colon, Carlos Zambrano, and John Lackey. Yes, you still have your share of chumps like Sydney Ponson, Jose Contreras and Carlos Silva. The loss of velocity is worrisome, but not necessarily as scary as you make it seem. |
| 2. By: maqman on 04-08-2012 06:19:26 I think the odds are better that Figgy turns into an offensive force than those for Felix becoming a noodle arm. He was probably in shock from the run support he got. Sleep well, Felix is still King. |
| 3. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-08-2012 11:27:50 In Felix's final spring start and after the second inning Saturday night, his average fastball was exactly 90. End of confusion, malcontent. |
| 4. By: micahjr on 04-08-2012 14:37:42 Felix has also worked in a cutter. Confusion back, somewhat. Felix appears to be throwing his fastball 90-92. Last year he was 93-96. I haven't really seen his two-seamer as much as previous years, either. If he's still throwing this speed at the end of April, I might be concerned. His results have been pretty good, outside of not having it on Saturday and Delabar screwing up in colossal fashion. What the heck was that stupid pitch, Delabar? Cespedes hits a 460 foot home-run the night before, yet you don't think that he can hit a fastball down the pipe? He should have walked him. First base was open, the next hitter was less of a threat. On Yoenis, every one of his homers is on a pitch right down the middle, and he has struck out in half his at bats. Just pitch him low and he'll get himself out. Use breaking balls to set up the FB, not the other way around. |
| 5. By: Jason A. Churchill on 04-08-2012 15:07:49 These are the facts: Felix's fastball, by all accounts, averaged 93-94 last season. Not 96. Felix's fastball has averaged just over 90, but less than 91, in his last two starts -- versus Colorado in Arizona and Saturday versus Oakland. The fastball velocities we are speaking of here are not being confused with changeups or cutters. I watched both starts from pitch 1 to the final pitch and charted every single one in between. There IS a differential in velocity, and it's significant enough on which to keep an eye. micahjr, Ever think maybe Delabar didn't purposely throw a fastball down the middle? I mean, how often is that the goal in any situation to any hitter that has any power at all? |
| 6. By: micahjr on 04-10-2012 19:52:16 Of course he didn't mean to throw it down the pipe. Doesn't mean he should have given him any fastballs at all. Cespedes hasn't proved he can hit any kind of non-grooved pitch. He's the only guy with murder power on Oakland. The Mariners are too walk averse sometimes. I think they have more hit batsmen than walks this year, which is ridiculous on two counts. I'm sure you are right on his fastball velocity from last year. He was 93-96 when I saw him pitch, which wasn't nearly as much as I would have liked. I'll be keeping an eye on his fastball, I'm just not ready to make any kind of panic conclusion. |
| 7. By: rotoenquire on 04-11-2012 11:33:20 I have been watching a lot of baseball the last few days. I was watching Kershaw pitching and the broadcasters for the other team was talking about Kershaws drop in velocity. Also covered some other players including Felix. They were saying all the use of cutters, sliders and other pitches account for the loss in velocity of players fastballs. Players are realizing they don't need that 99 mph fastball to be a good pitcher. And in doing so are using there fastball less and lsoing velocity. So with Felix I would not be worried. Hittiing the low 90s is no reason for real concern Felix starts averaging 85 then we need to worry. |
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