| By Adam H. Wong | ![]() | By 12-19-2011 |
| 1. By: rjfrik on 12-19-2011 19:37:33 Looks like we signed 17 year old SS Angel Yente from the Dominican. He projects to be a top prospect down the road that hopefully develops the power that Engle and Co. think will come. His bat is ticket to bigs and reports are that he has the ability to become a top prospect. Exciting to say the least. Hanley 2.0 ? Maybe. Go M's |
| 2. By: titans12 on 12-19-2011 22:35:07 Well darvish is a ranger im sure they will get him signed.hopefully we get some offense soon. hopefully prince beltran cespedes just one would be nice |
| 3. By: Marlin Man on 12-20-2011 09:57:19 Come on Z- the West is really starting to pull away from you-- you don't get the Prince, or a REAL significant bat- you can kiss your job goodbye in another year. M.M. |
| 4. By: Saltydawg05 on 12-20-2011 12:57:13 Relax Marlin Man... We don't want Jack to do something just to do it. Remember why we are in this situation? Too many bad contracts. The Mariners need to spend more and more importantly need to spend more wisely. Whether or not we get Prince...there are other bats out there (via trade) that we can get as well. I don't wanna be all in on Prince no matter the cost, however I do want this offense to improve |
| 5. By: Marlin Man on 12-20-2011 13:12:29 Salty--- I stand by my statement They are indeed pulling away from us, they kicked our ass in standings BEFORE either made such moves, and if you follow old "monetball" you know Billy Bean WILL be back with his assosrtment of nobodies and will be winning again in a year or two I am a big fan of Z (so far) BUT still say we need a significant bat, or two in the lineup- to have any hope whatsoever in playing winning ball in ayear or two I just hope the two old muppets in the corner room WILL let him make the moves he needs to make?????????????? M.M. |
| 6. By: elsid on 12-20-2011 13:31:24 Marlin Man -- no offense meant by this, but if Billy Beane can win with an "assortment of nobodies", why can't the M's? Your assumption doesn't hold water. Granted, the M's have to make moves to improve their team over the last few years -- that is a given. However, if you jump, there may be no ground to land on. You can't just give Fielder 10 years and a billion $'s, when you possibly could get him for less. Patience always helps, as well as an open mind, especially in baseball. J -- love the site. It has come along way!!!! Hope I get the chance to make it up there this year and see ya, and whomever else is working with ya. |
| 7. By: maqman on 12-20-2011 13:44:36 It will be interesting to see how Darvish pitches in the Rangers bandbox in the summer heat in Big D. I for one don't want Fielder, he will end up an albatross and when he does Smoak or Carp could well be putting up better numbers but maybe someplace else. |
| 8. By: Saltydawg05 on 12-20-2011 13:45:49 Marlin Man... I agree with you on that we need two (at least) bats. Where I don't agree is the get Prince at all costs line of thinking. If it takes 250+ over 10 years no thank you. The M's need to spend wisely so we don't get into a situation where a few terrible contracts cripple the ability to contend. The M's need to spend and get better, just we need to do it wisely |
| 9. By: Saltydawg05 on 12-20-2011 13:52:03 For the record that may be signing H. Kuroda to a deal if his market falls and then trading some of the pitching in a deal for a bat. There are more ways to get better than simply throwing money at the best hitter. The M's are not a small market team, but at the same time they are not the Yankees, Red Sox,Phillies, or even the Angels either. Bad contracts hurt this team and that is something that needs to be avoided as much as possible. |
| 10. By: nwmsfan on 12-20-2011 15:17:57 There's just no way Prince gets a 10 yr deal, I know its boras and never say never and all that but look at the bidders. Cubs would go shorter yrs and higher annual value but the more I think about that it doesn't make sense. They are still a few years away of legitimate contention and the new brass will likely do that through smart player development. If they were inheriting a better team and farm system that's different but they need a big overhaul and dumping 25-28 million to a 1B with no dh option is something I can't see. TOR needs a frontline starter BADLY and that should be their priority. It's hard to imagine they would ship out top prospects and then bind themselves up with a huge contract after weakening the system. If WAS is impulsive enough to go for a long term deal with him then maybe that's your one dumb owner, but after Werth last year and commitments to Laroche, Morse plus no dh option they would have to be really dumb. Maybe I'm way off here but I can see us nabbing prince if Jack goes 8 years at a value south of 200 million because of the market. |
| 11. By: Mackie on 12-20-2011 16:01:44 Boras is doing a nice job playing out the FA situation so he can get the most for Fielder. I have to wonder if there will be offers as high as Boras anticipates. I wouldn't want to go higher than 8 years at 200 million. I'd like something better like 6 years at $150M. Any way, it will cost a lot of money. What is Cespedes likely to get paid, and how much do you think he would help the Mariners right away? I am reading things like $30M, and that he is a five-tool player who might compare to Raul Mondesi. What outfield position would he be best suited to? Is this a guy the M's should be in on? |
| 12. By: Timberwolf on 12-20-2011 20:00:31 Boras specializes in creating his own market. With the Yankees and Red Sox not a realistic option, that is a lot harder. I'm expecting a shorter deal with an even earlier opt-out for Prince, but coming close to Pujols dollars per season. Something like $150M for six years with Prince having an opt-out at the end of year 3 or 4. |
| 13. By: Panhead55 on 12-21-2011 11:38:02 I'd be nervous about expending a lot of $s on Cespedes. While scouts can make good assessments about his "tools", that doesn't necessarily guarantee success at the highest level. Supposedly the Cuban league falls somewhere between low A and high A in regards to level of play. We know Cespesdes is at least 26 yo, with the outside chance he is older. While Cespedes has put up exceptional numbers in the Cuban league, would we be that excited about a prospect who produced those kind of numbers at High Desert as a 26 year old? |
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